A small victory in an undoubtedly ongoing battle.
Yesterday, the United States Supreme Court apparently rediscovered their Constitutional mandate to interpret the Constitution, and participate in the checks and balances upon the other two branches of our government. In a 5-3 decision, with Chief Justice Roberts recusing himself, the court ruled that President Bush had overstepped his authority in applying military tribunals to a so-called “enemy combatant” by the name of Salim Ahmed Hamdan, held in Guantanamo Bay. The court did; however, seem to leave the door open to allow Congress to provide the President with even more wartime powers, which might render this ruling moot.
The spineless administration lapdogs in Congress wasted no time jumping on that opportunity, and made it a point to “spin” the discussion in that direction. Sen. Bill Frist of Tennessee said Thursday that he would sponsor legislation after the Holiday break that would authorize the military tribunals.” To keep America safe in the war on terror, I believe we should try terrorists only before military commissions, not in our civilian courts," said Frist. Sen. Lindsay Graham of South Carolina, has offered to work with the White House on legislation that would allow the administration to try the Guantanamo prisoners before a military tribunal. "The court said that military commissions would be proper if Congress blessed those commissions -- that the president by himself could not do this, that he had to come to Congress and get the Congress to bless the military tribunal. I agree with that. I think it would be better off if the Congress and the White House work together to pass a statute that would allow these terrorists to be tried in a military court."
So, given the direction this seems to be going, the obvious question to the Congress is, are we willing to legislate the violation of the Geneva Conventions and the Uniform Code of Military Justice by our government? Because that was one of the salient points of the Supreme Court ruling - "For the reasons that follow, we conclude that the military commission convened to try Hamdan lacks power to proceed because its structure and procedures violate both the UCMJ and the Geneva Conventions."
In effect, if the Congress passes legislation that gives the President the authority to convene such military tribunals for detainees such as Hamdan, we will be in violation of a treaty that we were a signatory to, as well as the “rules of the road” for military justice that we, ourselves, established. And the next obvious question becomes, what other laws, codes and international treaties are we willing to abandon in the name of national security? And what, may I ask, is the benefit of “national security” if we have now become a nation no longer bound by the rule of law?
I am truly encouraged by yesterday’s ruling by the Supreme Court. But my hope is somewhat tempered by the possibility that the Congress will take action that flies in the face of what the Justices were trying to say. Here’s a hint folks… this isn’t the way our founding fathers envisioned the evolution of our republic. And to continue to abandon the principles which they and the many that have followed them, have fought and in some cases, died to protect, would be a treason to their memory. On the eve of the Fourth of July Holiday, celebrating our great nation’s 230th birthday, that is a truly sad thought.
Labels: Constitutional law, politics, war
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That's a good point.
Bush may have the same problem when he gets to the Hague...
Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, etc. - They're all dead. How is he going to find a jury of his "peers"?
Perhaps Saddam Hussein can sit in on the trial. He was a viscous dictator.
Marlipern,
WAY out of line. I am convinced the greatest terror you have faced in your life was seeing an American cop in your rearview mirror. If I lived in Franco's Spain, or Hitler's Germany, I would take my family to safety. As you appear to still be living in America, I can only assume one of two things:
1. You believe what you write, and you are incredibly brave to stay here as with your description of the current administration, the Gestapo is out for you and your family.
2. You believe what you write and are an impotent coward, unable to act in the best interest of your family.
We both know that you have picked door number 2 because we both know that you can type these things that you do without any fear of any negative effect on you other than having to post this derogatory response to your obviously flawed statements. And because we both know that you will hide behind your computer “fighting” for freedom, as I fight for our country.
I understand that you are frustrated by the fact that your life has not turned out as you have wished it would. You are not making as much money as you would like too, your job does not really interest you, and you are realizing that you will most likely pass through this world without making any impact on anything.
I have been on vacation with my family prior to deploying overseas again so I my have missed your eloquent outrage at the capture, torture, and beheading of two of my Army brothers in Iraq. I also apparently missed the story in the New York Times about how the Iraqi insurgents have arrested, confined, and are planning to try the individuals responsible for this actual war crime.
I defend your right to free speech, not your choice of sedition. I leave my family and go into harms way so that we can have a better America, not so American’s such as you can better themselves by smearing hardworking, honorable men. I say honorable and I know what that means. You do not.
All for now. Enjoy the 4th of July, WE have earned it for you Brother.
Anonymous,
Not out of line at all. More like right on the money. But you can't see that, because you have been indoctrinated, assimilated, spoon-fed talking points that you choose to believe, because that's apparently easier for you than independent thought.Not out of line at all. More like right on the money. But you can't see that, because you have been indoctrinated, assimilated, spoon-fed talking points that you choose to believe, because that's apparently easier for you than independent thought.
You call me a coward, while posting a message with an "anonymous" user ID. As such, I need say no more on that subject, your actions speak for themselves.
You refer to my dissent as sedition. Hardly. The textbook definition of sedition is " incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority." I have never, nor would I ever, incite insurrection in this country. I will however, express my opinion, any time, anywhere, and in any manner I choose. That is the right our Constitution and our founding fathers bequeathed to us.
You, and others like you, claim that your service in Iraq is "defending my freedom". How? At what point, and in what way did the people of Iraq, or even Saddam Hussein threaten my freedom? Was there some planned invasion of America by the Iraqi military that I am unaware of? Did Saddam have some ICBMs stowed away that I hadn't heard of?
Iraq had no ties to 9/11. Saddam had no ties to Al Qaeda. You wanna go after the bad guys? Bomb Damascus, or Riyadh, or northeast Afghanistan. Or disarm North Korea, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan and India.
Iraq was a war of choice, based on an existing agenda, orchestrated by a group of thugs who have the audacity to call themselves patriots. I know you don't believe my, but history will prove me right.
And speaking of history, some food for thought... Assume for just a minute that I'm right in my assertions regarding the current administration and their character and agenda. In twenty or thirty years, our children and grandchildren will be fighting and dying, trying to clean up the unnecessary mess created by this administration, and supported by people like you. While at home, what used to be known as the land of the free will be totally unrecognizable, with our former freedoms whittled away to nearly non-existence, all in the name of "defending our freedoms".
If that happens, you can sit your grandkids on your knee, and explain to them what the United States of America used to be like, and that you, marching in goose-step with the rest of the Republican sheep, helped it to become the totalitarian state that it has become.
So, carry on soldier. You have your orders.
Thank you for proving my point.
Hey, what is with the first paragraph?
I don’t have a log in because I actually read the terms of conditions prior to signing up. Of which you are in direct violation of section 12 of Blogger.com and section 4 of Blogspot.com You see you signed up for no freedom of thought by starting your blog. But as I suspected, you have not read the terms but operate out of what you think the terms should be. Does that sound familiar?
I call your dissent sedition because in 30 years, we will not have the draconian society you fear but no society, that is where your words are leading.
As far as Iraq, I am assuming you think there were no WMD’s found.
The one thing that really bothers me here, and you have been a great litmus test is that you have still failed to mention even basic human remorse for the mutilated, beheaded Army guys. Not one word. How can you support the troops as you claim and not even express a little bit of anger at this outrage, or the fact that it will go unpunished?
I will tell you why. Because you feel obligated to SAY you support the troops, you don’t. I have a bit more respect for Jane Fonda. At least she was honest about being wrong.
Bigdog, I am sorry that I can not sit and read the rants of my fellow American as I would like to have a recognizable America in the future.
I do not goose-step, it hurts my knees.
Bigdog,
I’m sure you’re correct about Marlipern. I have a friend that writes frequently to the blogs and I frequently reprimand him for writing so harshly to our fellow Americans. I understand the reason for it, it is so easy to get angry and write things to people and say things in haste that after quiet reflection and time seem rather silly, or just plain mean.
So, with that said, I am sorry if I offended you, Marlipern.
However, it is just increasingly harder to sit by and listen to people who, in my opinion do not understand the power of the written word and its effect on others around them, and write things without a true world frame of reference.
During the Viet Nam war, American servicemen and women were spit on and cursed.
I find this fascinating as the majority of servicemen and women during this time were draftees; they had the choice of answering the call to duty or going to jail. And yet today, every member of the armed forces is a volunteer but Americans feel obligated to express support for “the troops”. Why is this? Logically, shouldn’t we, the servicemen and women of today should be spit on. We are the warmongering, baby killers so reviled by the historic anti-war protesters. They were called to duty by law; we are called by duty for law. We are still serving, reenlisting (at record numbers), and joining to serve during this time of “war of choice”. I know this travesty happened because it was just plain silly.
I have spent several years overseas on 4 continents and have seen and spoken to people with and without a gun in my hand, and I have come to have a deep appreciation for the responsibility we have as Americans to help the rest of the world.
I have been asked the same question by Croats and Muslims in Bosnia that I was asked by Sunni Muslims and Kurds in Iraq and Pashto in Afghanistan: “What took you so long?” (In reference to American military involvement to bring freedom) This is not a wishful thought of mine; a hopeful way for me to justify my presence, or something I read in the papers, I have actually been asked this question by locals in three different countries in three different wars in three different languages .
I was in Bosnia during the FIRST democratic elections and downtown Baghdad during the FIRST democratic elections to be held in those countries. I was incredibly prideful to be an American seeing old men and women crying with joy as they held their stained fingers above their heads in Iraq, signifying that they had voted for the first time in their lives. They had done so with the real likelihood of being killed for doing this.
And yet I was very disturbed knowing that normally less that 50% of Americans vote on a regular basis, but nearly 100% of Americans feel it is their right to gripe about our country and it's policies. I saw this with my own eyes and know it is true.
America is truly the “City on the Hill” as far as the rest of the world is concerned. Again, I know this from direct personal observation, not because I read a party line.
I absolutely agree that we collectively have problems with our government, but I also know we have the greatest country in the world, and we should all humbly thank God for being born here.
When you are deployed overseas it is very painful to hear our fellow Americans degrade our government during a time of war.
I spent 8 years serving for President Clinton. I saw the bombings of Americans in New York, Saudi Arabia and Yemen pass without any SIGNIFICANT repercussions to the perpetrators. I saw and lived the demoralization of the military during this time. I NEVER badmouthed his administration even when goaded by my very liberal friends, not out of fear of retribution, but out of respect for the institutions that have enabled this country to be the City on the Hill.
I will continue to thank you bigdog for appreciation of service, but please I implore you, always be worth defending. Enjoy our freedom.
I have seen these things previously stated with my one eyes and affirm them to be true.
Bigdog,
You are correct. I wish no harm to come to ANY of our troops, ever. To suggest otherwise would simply be a hateful thing to say about someone you know nothing about.
Anonymous,
You say to me "you have still failed to mention even basic human remorse for the mutilated, beheaded Army guys." Last time I checked, that wasn't the subject of this thread.
You think I don't grieve at the barbaric way those soldiers died? You believe I don't have compassion for the loved ones of these, and so many other of our armed forces, who have given the ultimate sacrifice for their country? What kind of monster do you think I am?
Those soldiers's deaths are a tragedy, as is EVERY death that has taken place in this conflict. I don't mourn for the terrorists who have brought destruction upon themselves. I don't mourn for those that sympathize with the terrorists, and aid them in their beastly acts. But I mourn for the innocent people in Iraq, who have died by the thousands, because they had the misfortune of living in a country torn asunder by warfare, and happened to be in the wrong place when we, or the insurgents pulled the trigger, detonated the car bomb, or dropped some munitions. And I mourn for the many service men and women, who will not be home this Fourth of July, to celebrate the blessings of liberty that we all share.
There are some that suggest that people like me, who do not support the war, therefore do not support our troops. They couldn't be further from the truth. I support the troops so much that I want the home safely, out of harm's way, back with their families.
And my anonymous friend, don't assume just because I don't wear the uniform that I don't respect your service, and salute your bravery. It is likely that if I were a younger man, after the horrors of September 11, I would have answered my nation's call, as my father had after Dec. 7, 1941. So just for the record, when I see a person in uniform these days, I don't curse them or spit on them; I shake their hand, and thank them for their service.
On that note, thank you for your service, and good luck in your deployment. And may the good Lord bring you safely back home to your family when your job is done.
Happy Independence Day.
Marlipern,
Thank you and you are welcome. I do not think you are a monster, just frustrated by circumstance.
If you are really interested in discourse you can reach me at: janefondarocks@hotmail.com . Yes that is me.
For that matter, as the three of us are the only people reading this thing, bigdog, drop me a line also. If we can get off of the WWW and speak as Americans, I think it would be great.
Enjoy OUR independence day, and again thank you and your father.
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